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Troy Y.
I see it says it uses factory fog lights, but I am not seeing any round holes where the factory fog lights would mount. Could you elaborate on this and show where the fog lights would actually mount?
It can be confusing when a bumper claims to support factory fog lights but lacks the traditional round cutouts. For the Fab Fours Ghost Stubby Front Bumper, the mounting is a bit unconventional compared to a standard steel bumper.
Unlike traditional bumpers with front-facing circular holes, the Ghost Stubby utilizes internal mounting brackets located behind the bumper shell.
The "Hidden" Location: The fog lights actually sit recessed inside the bumper and shine through the side-facing "knife-edge" openings or dedicated slots in the wing sections of the bumper.
Bracket System: Fab Fours includes two different sets of brackets in the kit. One set is specifically designed to cradle your factory plastic bumper fog lights (Sport/Sahara), and the other is for aftermarket 3-inch LED pods.
Aesthetics: Because they are recessed, you don't see the light housing from a side profile; you only see the light output through the geometric cutouts in the 3/16" steel.
Unlike traditional bumpers with front-facing circular holes, the Ghost Stubby utilizes internal mounting brackets located behind the bumper shell.
The "Hidden" Location: The fog lights actually sit recessed inside the bumper and shine through the side-facing "knife-edge" openings or dedicated slots in the wing sections of the bumper.
Bracket System: Fab Fours includes two different sets of brackets in the kit. One set is specifically designed to cradle your factory plastic bumper fog lights (Sport/Sahara), and the other is for aftermarket 3-inch LED pods.
Aesthetics: Because they are recessed, you don't see the light housing from a side profile; you only see the light output through the geometric cutouts in the 3/16" steel.
Timothy B.
The description states the bumper retains the oem fog lights does that include the fog lights on the 23 gladiator texas trail?
Yes, the Fab Fours Ghost Stubby Front Bumper is compatible with the factory fog lights on a 2023 Gladiator Texas Trail.
The Texas Trail trim is based on the Sport S platform, which comes standard with plastic bumper fog lights. The Ghost Stubby is specifically designed with mounting brackets to accommodate these factory lights, as well as the LED versions found on Sahara and Rubicon trims.
The Texas Trail trim is based on the Sport S platform, which comes standard with plastic bumper fog lights. The Ghost Stubby is specifically designed with mounting brackets to accommodate these factory lights, as well as the LED versions found on Sahara and Rubicon trims.
ZAKARY P.
Can I use the factory Mojave front skid plate with this bumper?
No, you cannot use the factory Mojave front skid plate with the Fab Fours Ghost Stubby Front Bumper without performing significant custom modifications.
Brad F.
Can you use any brand winch or only Warn Zeon
Yes, you'll be able to use any winch as the Fab Fours Ghost Stubby Front Winch Bumper features the industry-standard 10" x 4.5" winch bolt pattern.
Gary B.
Do the factory halogen fog lights from my 2023 Jeep Gladiator Sport S Diesel require any special add-ons for attachment to this bumper?
No, your factory halogen fog lights from the 2023 Gladiator Sport S are not compatible with the Fab Fours Ghost Stubby Bumper (JL24-B5152-1). Unlike many of Fab Fours' other bumper lines (like the Matrix or Stubby series), the Ghost Stubby is specifically engineered for 4" round lights, such as the Rigid Industries 360-Series.
Why they won't fit:
Mounting Pattern: The factory halogen fog lights on a Sport S use a unique 4-bolt plastic housing mounting pattern. The Ghost Stubby bumper utilizes a standard circular mounting system designed for aftermarket LED pods.
Housing Size: The openings in the Ghost bumper are specifically sized for four 4" round lights (two per side). Your factory halogen assemblies are physically larger and the "tabs" will not line up with the pre-drilled holes in the steel.
No Adapter Brackets: Fab Fours does not currently offer an adapter bracket to "retrofit" Sport S halogen lights into the Ghost series. While their Matrix line includes brackets for Rubicon LED fogs, those do not apply to this tactical/minimalist Ghost design.
What you will need instead:
To have fog lights with this bumper, you should plan on upgrading to aftermarket LED pods. The bumper is designed to host:
Primary Lights: (2) 4" Round LED Lights (Rigid 360-Series is the recommended fit).
Secondary Lights: (2) additional 4" Round LED Lights for a total of four.
Installation Note for Diesel Owners: Since you have the EcoDiesel, you will need to take extra care during installation. The Ghost Stubby fits the diesel model, but you must temporarily lift the cooling package (intercooler and radiator assembly) to access the bumper mounting bolts on the frame.
Why they won't fit:
Mounting Pattern: The factory halogen fog lights on a Sport S use a unique 4-bolt plastic housing mounting pattern. The Ghost Stubby bumper utilizes a standard circular mounting system designed for aftermarket LED pods.
Housing Size: The openings in the Ghost bumper are specifically sized for four 4" round lights (two per side). Your factory halogen assemblies are physically larger and the "tabs" will not line up with the pre-drilled holes in the steel.
No Adapter Brackets: Fab Fours does not currently offer an adapter bracket to "retrofit" Sport S halogen lights into the Ghost series. While their Matrix line includes brackets for Rubicon LED fogs, those do not apply to this tactical/minimalist Ghost design.
What you will need instead:
To have fog lights with this bumper, you should plan on upgrading to aftermarket LED pods. The bumper is designed to host:
Primary Lights: (2) 4" Round LED Lights (Rigid 360-Series is the recommended fit).
Secondary Lights: (2) additional 4" Round LED Lights for a total of four.
Installation Note for Diesel Owners: Since you have the EcoDiesel, you will need to take extra care during installation. The Ghost Stubby fits the diesel model, but you must temporarily lift the cooling package (intercooler and radiator assembly) to access the bumper mounting bolts on the frame.